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		<title>By: serakit</title>
		<link>http://artofconv.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/invitations-as-group-conversation/#comment-120</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have trouble accepting even the mailing list or announced at dance practice invites as invites, because I was brought up to believe that you just don&#039;t &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; that. So I often wind up spending a lot of time thinking about &quot;Well, yes, they invited everyone, but do they really want me there or do they want all the other people and simply found it easier to risk having me come too?&quot; (But I think that&#039;s probably a pretty individual issue, too- most people were not brought up to fear being rude on the same level I was.) I still write formal, written invitations for anything I&#039;m going to host, not that I host much, and make out a guest list of &quot;these people are invited&quot;.

On the whole, I think it&#039;s a negative trend, at least the way you&#039;re describing it. The email blasts are less so, but what you seem to be describing is everyone seeing who else is coming. This means that the first people who RSVP have a big effect on the party, and I think some parties might fail just because everyone is waiting around to see who else is coming. If it has an effect- for me, if I know and enjoy the company of the hosts, it won&#039;t- on the majority of people coming who else is coming, you&#039;ll end up with a kind of &quot;who blinks first&quot; thing, and possibly some people getting frustrated with the waiting for everyone else to reply, take it as everyone else not coming, and saying no, which pushes it into the feedback loop of no&#039;s, when with paper invitations they might have said &quot;oh, that sounds fun!&quot; and actually gone and had a fairly decent party. Maybe not a huge one, but decent.

The other thing this will change is that a number of hosts plan on a certain percentage of no&#039;s for some events, just because everyone has time conflicts sometimes, and this seems like it will skew what that percentage is greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have trouble accepting even the mailing list or announced at dance practice invites as invites, because I was brought up to believe that you just don&#8217;t <i>do</i> that. So I often wind up spending a lot of time thinking about &#8220;Well, yes, they invited everyone, but do they really want me there or do they want all the other people and simply found it easier to risk having me come too?&#8221; (But I think that&#8217;s probably a pretty individual issue, too- most people were not brought up to fear being rude on the same level I was.) I still write formal, written invitations for anything I&#8217;m going to host, not that I host much, and make out a guest list of &#8220;these people are invited&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the whole, I think it&#8217;s a negative trend, at least the way you&#8217;re describing it. The email blasts are less so, but what you seem to be describing is everyone seeing who else is coming. This means that the first people who RSVP have a big effect on the party, and I think some parties might fail just because everyone is waiting around to see who else is coming. If it has an effect- for me, if I know and enjoy the company of the hosts, it won&#8217;t- on the majority of people coming who else is coming, you&#8217;ll end up with a kind of &#8220;who blinks first&#8221; thing, and possibly some people getting frustrated with the waiting for everyone else to reply, take it as everyone else not coming, and saying no, which pushes it into the feedback loop of no&#8217;s, when with paper invitations they might have said &#8220;oh, that sounds fun!&#8221; and actually gone and had a fairly decent party. Maybe not a huge one, but decent.</p>
<p>The other thing this will change is that a number of hosts plan on a certain percentage of no&#8217;s for some events, just because everyone has time conflicts sometimes, and this seems like it will skew what that percentage is greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: metahacker</title>
		<link>http://artofconv.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/invitations-as-group-conversation/#comment-119</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the default locus of control has changed, but that you can pull the interaction in one direction or another. The group, as it were, gets a vote, but the hosts have the final say on how the party is being organized. (After the group shows up, of course, different rules apply; vis every &quot;house party&quot; movie ever made.)

In short, technology eases, but does not enforce, decentralization of decision-making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the default locus of control has changed, but that you can pull the interaction in one direction or another. The group, as it were, gets a vote, but the hosts have the final say on how the party is being organized. (After the group shows up, of course, different rules apply; vis every &#8220;house party&#8221; movie ever made.)</p>
<p>In short, technology eases, but does not enforce, decentralization of decision-making.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://artofconv.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/invitations-as-group-conversation/#comment-118</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I was thinking about that.  One aspect of the new dynamic is that the entire group seems to get a little bit more say in the nature of the party itself -- at least, people often treat it that way.  Finding the balance of how much say they get can be tricky...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I was thinking about that.  One aspect of the new dynamic is that the entire group seems to get a little bit more say in the nature of the party itself &#8212; at least, people often treat it that way.  Finding the balance of how much say they get can be tricky&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dsr</title>
		<link>http://artofconv.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/invitations-as-group-conversation/#comment-117</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Conduct in the Glob wrote a column on a matter of similar import, not too long ago -- in which the ease of interactivity between the invitee and the inviter was leading to some etiquette problems.

IIRC, there was to be a dinner party for several couples. One invitee wrote back saying that that night was not good for them -- howzabout [a specific other night]?

The answer, of course, depends on the nature of the event. If reconfiguration is easy, simple and casual, then it might be polite to mention your preference or availability. But when it is difficult, complex or formal, it&#039;s less polite.

Of course, computers eliminate the &quot;difficult&quot; objection, and can make the simple/complex rule more transparent. It&#039;s still going to be hard to reschedule your Fourth of July party to the seventh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Conduct in the Glob wrote a column on a matter of similar import, not too long ago &#8212; in which the ease of interactivity between the invitee and the inviter was leading to some etiquette problems.</p>
<p>IIRC, there was to be a dinner party for several couples. One invitee wrote back saying that that night was not good for them &#8212; howzabout [a specific other night]?</p>
<p>The answer, of course, depends on the nature of the event. If reconfiguration is easy, simple and casual, then it might be polite to mention your preference or availability. But when it is difficult, complex or formal, it&#8217;s less polite.</p>
<p>Of course, computers eliminate the &#8220;difficult&#8221; objection, and can make the simple/complex rule more transparent. It&#8217;s still going to be hard to reschedule your Fourth of July party to the seventh&#8230;</p>
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